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  • 12 Jul 2017 5:41 PM
    Message # 4971471

    I hate to sound like a whiney little turd. lol I don't know about all of you, but I don't like the microphone. Sounds like he's talking in a barrel. 

    Last modified: 12 Jul 2017 5:48 PM | Anonymous member
  • 12 Jul 2017 10:27 PM
    Reply # 4971823 on 4971471
    Ivy (Louisiana) wrote:

    I hate to sound like a whiney little turd. lol I don't know about all of you, but I don't like the microphone. Sounds like he's talking in a barrel. 

    That's what he sounds like in person!

  • 13 Jul 2017 10:20 AM
    Reply # 4974423 on 4971471

    I haven't noticed any sound quality problems with the videos, except a few times when they stop filming and forget to turn the microphone back on when starting to film again.

    For me the ability to consistently record and hear what Rob is saying far exceeds any concern about the loss of "pristine" sound quality, which I have never noticed. There is nothing that can be done at the user's side to recreate audio that was not loud enough to be recorded on the camera microphone, or was spoken in a direction other than toward the camera. The videos are much less useful when you can not hear what Rob is saying.

    Rich Scott

  • 13 Jul 2017 7:09 PM
    Reply # 4975425 on 4971471

    I think Ivy means with the New Microphone that they use lately.  If you listen to Base Cabinets Episodes 11 and 12, you will hear awful sound quality and you cannot hear Jake at all.  This new microphone attached to Rob's apron is not as good as when it was at the Camera.  Jake's questions get washed out and you only hear Rob's answers without knowing what he is talking about.  The microphone also picks up way more power tool sounds as well as almost everything Rob does from setting drills down, to air compressor to even Clamping noises and apron rub noises that drown out a lot of what is going on.

    I am with Ivy on this, I think the way they used to record sound previously over the past 5 years had better audio quality than the last 3 weeks or so with the new microphone.  My biggest pet peeve is not being able to hear Jake anymore.  I miss hearing his comments.


    Dave B.

    Last modified: 14 Jul 2017 12:16 AM | Dave
  • 13 Jul 2017 10:55 PM
    Reply # 4975665 on 4971471

    When the microphone is clipped to the shirt, between the shirt and apron, and rubs against the canvas apron it gets quite annoying. All you can hear is the very loud rustling of the canvas against the little foam cover. 

  • 14 Jul 2017 12:22 AM
    Reply # 4975777 on 4971471

    From my personal view, I am paying to hear what Rob is saying, not to hear Jake.  Jake's questions can be interesting, but what Rob is saying is critical.  

    Rich Scott

  • 14 Jul 2017 7:03 AM
    Reply # 4976070 on 4971471
    ROB COSMAN (Administrator)

    Duly noted.  I will talk with Frick and see what we can do.  maybe an external mic overhead near the bench.  Any audio experts want to chime in?


  • 15 Jul 2017 9:04 AM
    Reply # 4977652 on 4971471
    Jake often asks questions I am also thinking about and find the conversation valuable.

  • 19 Jul 2017 11:28 AM
    Reply # 4984490 on 4971471

    I agree. The last episode was much improved as I did not like the clip on mic. I would like to see a shotgun mic on one channel and camera mic on other channel. Frick can level the two so they are equal.

    Having Jake saves me yelling at the monitor "Rob don't do that"  and with the clip on mic we could not hear Jake.  I know that some complained about the camera operator sounds but honestly once you hang around a while you realize it contributes to the "in shop" experience you cant find anywhere else on the internet.

  • 26 Jul 2017 6:07 PM
    Reply # 4996571 on 4971471

    Interesting that my first post to the forum is regarding audio, rather than woodworking...  getting better audio would require a pretty significant leap in equipment.  Even documentary style video, when done "right" uses multiple audio sources (lapel/lab mic, overhead shotgun with boom, room condenser mics, and often the audio from the camera's mic).  Using multiples of any of these would require an external audio recorder, and or a live sound engineer to mix the sources.  Recording to a multi-track external recorder would probably be best, but would increase post production time to properly mix and add the audio to the video. If you're really wanting full professional video, you start bringing in digital dynamic processing such as compressors and limiters/gates and time clocks for synchronization.  Digital signal processors (DSPs) are useful in a shop environment as they keep loud noises from clipping the mics and help automatically balance the volume/dynamic level of the input so less work is required in post production.  

    Mixing multi channel audio is pretty easy in most software suites, but has the downside of taking time.  There is equipment that isn't too expensive, but it's a rabbit hole of education, trouble shooting and to what purpose?  If the episodes were rehearsed, and planned for individual sale, I'd encourage some of the upgrades I mention, but for the purpose the videos serve;

    I think the long and short of it is that the lav mic is better than the built in camera audio, and for the most part gets the job done.  

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